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'Loveit' asked in one of the comments around here: "Tell me about PENNMOMMY."

It's an important story, especially for newcomers to the Great Gosselin debate. But as a newcomer myself, I won't be the best person to tell it.

When I started this blog, I did know there was some sort of controversy regarding PENNMOMMY (PM) but I hadn't paid much attention to it and didn't yet know any the disturbing details. For what I wanted to write about -- mocking GWoPpers-- I already had plenty of other material.

Almost immediately, however, different readers started sending links to all the sordid details. Here's what I've learned about PENNMOMMY. Hope I've not screwed anything up.

by: iwhyawli

PENNMOMMY (PM) was/is one of the original GWoPpers who also claimed to be a neighbor of the Gosselins.

Best I can tell, GWoP is a spin-off from some blog called TWoP. The TWoPpers booted the GWoPpers when they started posting people's home and work addresses, calling employers, harassing the churches where J&K's were scheduled to appear, etc., etc.


In truth, it turns out that PM actually lives in California and was one of those home-bound, bed-ridden people on TLC's Half Ton People series. She couldn't stay on the prescribed diet and when TLC decided not to give her any more airtime, she blamed Jon & Kate's popularity and started stirring the shit.

Everything starts falling apart for PENNMOMMY when she announces that her imaginary son was near death. All too willing to believe anything they hear, the GWoPpers immediately threw their emotional and financial support to PENNMOMMY, sending prayers, cards, money and food (of course).

Anyone else with half a brain immediately questioned why the precarious condition of her imaginary son had zero impact on PM's 24x7 internet usage.

Just about the time PM's imaginary son died his imaginary death in the imaginary hospital, folks were able to demonstrate with ample evidence that the whole PM schtick was a complete hoax.

Poof! PM soon vanishes from the Gosselin blogosphere. By "vanishes", I mean stops using the PENNMOMMY nic and immediately starts using another one.

The GWoP moderators and posters known as Fiona, iluveyore and 3Farmers were some of PM's most ardent supporters. They've been mentioned in some of the comments here and a google search quickly reveals that they're still around and actively bickering with everyone.

It is also widely believed that PM and at least Serena Leigh Bell (not her real name) are the same person. I don't know which GWoP moderator lives in St Louis, but if they're not in close cahoots with PM/Serena, I hope they are checking their bank balances and credit ratings everyday.

If I had to guess: it's Aunt Jodi's sister, Julie, who lives in St Louis and she isn't Aunt Jodi's sister at all. Serena vouches for Julie, of course, which is good enough for me. Let me get my checkbook.

Not yet one year later, the GWoP blog not only manages to survive its big scandal, it thrives and we already see the moderators back in the game trying once again to harvest whatever personal information they can get their hands on.

The End.

I invite others who were around at that time to share additional details (and correct mine which I know are messed up).

What was your favorite moment of the PENNMOMMY era?


Anonymous said...

TWOP is the forum/episode recap site that is responsible for being ground zero for tv forum madness.
The fact that the Duggar thread stays open-- over the years it has been suspended but never shut down-- with its past talk about teenage mastrubation and sexual acts performed by conversative christians-- and the Gosselin thread closed speaks volumes about the GWOPers madness.

My favorite PENNMOMMY(CAPS OF GREAT INTERWEB IMPORTANCE) was the fact all of this took months on end for the GWOP idiots to get a clue. Some other site actually discovered it to be a fraud way earlier.
It says so much about how the GWOP mods are jacka@@es just out to fill a website.

Anonymous said...

It's now owned by Bravo.

Corinne Haas said...

Hmmmm, my favorite Pennmommy moment? So many to choose from.

Was it when she banned Fiona because eventually everyone bans Fiona?

Was it the appearance of her other imaginary son posting girly-man letters to the 'witty and intelligent' (*snort*) Moon's blog?

Was it when GWoP posted her impassioned defense (I am a flight attendant!!! That's why I always comment from 3000 miles away!!!) but she spelled her *own* name wrong Corine-Corrine-Corinne?

Was it when watchoverthem the gwop-mod was so angry about the scam that she deleted her account and GWop was so messed up that it disappeared for a weekend?

No, I think it was when all references to Pennmommy just vanished *whoosh* from Julie's "Pennmommy is who she says she is" blog and GWoP's "Nothing to see here folks, keep moving" archives. Some truths are too embarrassing to set you free.

Google Reader- For those rainy days when you just can't access the whole story.

Loveit said...

You're shitting me.

Loveit said...

Apparently, the douchebaggery continues on GWOP, sans Penn Mommy.


just wondering said...

I find it interesting that we don't have so much as a "no comment" from any of her family members.

Haven't any of them even been approached by the media? Seems odd to me... No pictures, no comments, nothing at all from any of them. Weird...

No, all the normal citizens in the world probably just chalk it up to the idea that family drama belongs in the family - not in the media.

And what in the hell gives "Just Wondering" the right to question her family and why they're not talking?

And why does she feel that the family is obligated to speak out?

Just wondering, in my opinion, could replace Laura the Lingerer on the Pedestal of Stupidity.

Pigmommy said...

Pennmommy started the pig trough. She goes by Peri now. She is p****d that they banned her at GDNNOP when they caught her IP address. She even admits that on her blog. She's a lunatic.

IDon'tBakeEither said...

Justwondering hasn't been told about Saint Jodi? What about THAT family?

If Justwondering would only send her home address and ss# to Serena Leigh Bell (NHRN) she could enjoy the fantasy of the magical fairy princess Saint Jodi of Exquisite Mothering Skills holding a letter of support from Justwondering. Justwondering might be missing out on this fantasy experience if she doesn't act soon.

iwhyawli said...

okay, I am giggling like a school girl at this comment in the pig trough's Welcome post

erin said...
I think you probably meant "Denotes" not "Detonates" in the blog title. As it stands it makes no sense.

April 7, 2009 5:40 PM

Anonymous said...

Interesting PM is Peri. I think this person could be three others on different blogs. The person behind socking as PM loves the show House.

Anonymous said...

Some Pennmommy reading for your enjoyment. Read a few pages before and you'll get most of the story. It's PMC again.

Quiltart said...

My favorite Pennmommy moment:
PM claimed to have been a "baby feeder" at the Gosselin home when the babies came home from the hospital.

She claimed that Kate called her house one night and screamed at her that she (Pennmommy) had stolen a cup of yogurt from Kate's fridge.

You can only imagine the sanctimonious yelping that caused among the righteous!

Istoletheyoghurt said...

The yogurt was a good one. But I think she spelled it "yoghurt." Thanks for the Lol's.

Want to read Pennmommy's posts? Go to Google Reader (Google it!) and search for her blog name "In Support Of the Truth" and look through the web addresses listed to get it. I found it listed third from the top today. I still can't believe how wrapped up and sanctimonious those gwop mods and regulars were about Pennmommy. ThreeFarmers, Serena, Moon, Lonnyswife, Pamela the Shrew, they were NUTS about Pennmommy. If you did not bow down before her TRUTH you were scolded. Too bad the comments didn't survive. (Fiona was priceless back then) The whole time I KNEW she was a fake. I'd seen it before on the Internet and I'll probably see it again. Not one of them NOT. ONE. admitted she was wrong. FYI, Moon announcing that she was a VICTIM does not = admitting she was wrong though it's the best that blowhard can muster. Gwop acted like complete losers. It's what they do best.

Erin said...

My favorite PennMommy moment is one of my favorite GWOP tactics--remove and deny. They removed every trace that they were ever in support of PennMommy and subsequently refused to talk about it. This brilliant tactic was also used by WatchOverThem, who brilliantly removed all her nasty comments then challenged anyone to find where she had said inappropriate things. Then, GDNNOP figured out where she worked she deleted her profile, triggering a TOS violation that got GWOP temporarily shut down. Good times.

Anonymous said...

don't forget about airezoe. what ever happened to her anyway? probably using another name!

TheRealTruthwillyoufree said...


Too many to count, but the way the oldest brother (who was at Cornell Law School LOL)name was changed from Jonas to Jonah halfway through the saga always brings a laugh.

In reading through some of this again, I am reminded of how involved Pamela the Shrew and Mooney Tunes and their followers were. This was not just a GWoP production. They had help.

Marissa said...

file this under PENNMOMMY Codex

From the Pig Blog...

Anonymous said...
R U Pennmommy? This website says so

June 15, 2009 7:01 AM

Peri said...
I was waffling on whether to mention that website as another one for snark value, but at the same time didn't want to give them the hits.

No, I'm not pennmommy. It's a sign of the ignorance and errors on that site to make the claim. There is a lot of misinformation on that one. I didn't even find it amusing.

Pennmommy is alive and OK reasonably well at her usual home of Atheist in a Minivan (possummommy or possummama). I could give you a long list of the differences in us and our lives but that would be too much personal information for me. Just for a beginning though, I don't blog about my family. My kids are grown and do search the web checking to make sure I don't blog about them!

June 15, 2009 12:05 PM

Oh Peri, uh, Fiona, uh whoever you are. You're such an idiot. You're true colors are showing.

Anonymous said...

Read the post from William
On what planet would anything in this email be considered anything but another mental Mary Sue.

These mental cases want so hard to make it real that everything kate is evil.

Anonymous said...

trying to follow the PM william made up, too?

What kind of lonely life does a person have when they have to keep on making up sockpuppets? Fiona, care to answer that one?

AlexisFan said...

Yes, "William" was the middle son of "Corinne".

There was "Jonah/Jonas", the oldest who was in law school.

"Jason" who expired at 18 after attending one month of college in SoCal.

"William", the middle son and Corinne's rock. He was the one that kept the mods at GWoP, BoMoonie, Lisa/Loney, AireZoe, etc. up-to-date on Jason's condition and eventual (too soon, WHY?!!!) demise.

The fact that he was ostensibly a twenty-year old college student, but wrote like a woman in his late 30's? Well that DIDN'T cause anyone in their little prayer circle to even raise an eyebrow.

Even the clairvoyant herself.

Anonymous said...

Hey! That's a shout out from Peri to this Gwopwop blog!

You KNOW she loves the attention! She put it right there in her own front blogyard. She's barely wearing anything and she teases us with her made-up facts about adult children.

Anonymous said...

Pamela the Shrew and Airzoe used to email with Pennmommy's oldest son's fiancee. Then they'd post the info on her condition. Even after she was exposed, they couldn't get it through their thick skulls that Every. Single. Pennmommy family member was invented. There is NO pennmommy. There is NO son. There is NO fiancee. Stupid cows.

And no apologies to anyone for the ruse. None. I could spank them!

SillyWithoutPutty said...

My favorite PennMommy tidbit is the riveting death watch tale of how poor ill Jason has a fleeting rallying moment and is able to take a tiny bit of applesauce from a spoon while HOOKED TO A RESPIRATOR. A scene worthy of a Lifetime movie, or an episode of M.A.S.H.

SillyWithoutPutty said...

The Real True Adventures of PennMommy as chonicled on the GDDNOP archives. Grab a cup of tea or maybe a yoghurt...

GoogleReader said...

Oct 6, 2008
Pennmommy about "the other blog"from Gosselins Without Pity by Sharla
The relative we have been staying with is having to delete her entire online life because she was kind enough to post a picture of Jason. I am a flight attendant! My name is Corrine/Pennmommy.

I had used a computer wireless connection which was connected to the internet address of this person who is dear to me. I am horrified by how fast people found photos of HER children and made accusations. She had to delete her google account to delete her picasa photo account. I hope all the people at the other blog are very happy with themselves.

You have stalked my family and close friends during difficult times. I'm sorry if anyone has been hurt by what I did. I didn't know keeping a blog on the same connection as a family member would cause this grief.

Possummomma is well known and had her blog for years. She's now afraid for her children. On top of the grief, I feel horrible for everyone who is being hurt now.

Posted for Pennmommy

GoogleReader said...

Oct 3, 2008
Sympathy to Pennmommyfrom Gosselins Without Pity by Sharla
We are saddened by the sudden loss of PennMommy's son. We have been praying for the family, and we will continue to pray for them in these dark and painful times. We hope that everyone can put aside differences in opinion, be grateful for your loved ones, and give this family space to grieve in private.

googlereader said...

Julie's Site Part One:
Oct 1, 2008
In Support of Penn Mommyfrom "Truth Breeds Hatred" ~Bias of Priene, Maxims by The Truth Will Set You Free
Penn Mommy and I have shared a similar experience. I actually didn't know the story behind the reasons she started her blog until I read a response from her son, William (pasted below). For anyone who may be questioning her credibility, let me assure you that she is who she says she is. I know that my identity was questioned for some time, but I think there is enough "proof" that I am Jodi's sister and I'm not lying. You may not agree with the reasons I felt that I needed to come forward, but until any of you have had a "real" life experience with Jon and Kate (I'm not talking about a speaking engagement), you are basing your opinions on speculation and characters on a TV show. The supporters love to use the phrase, "Don't judge them unless you have walked in their shoes." Well, the same applies to me, Jodi, Penn Mommy and anyone else who has spoken out based on our "real" life experiences. None of you have walked in OUR shoes, so until you can come back and report on your own real life experiences, don't judge those of us who actually KNOW them.

I do not know Penn Mommy, but I have communicated with her and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that what she says is true. She has not lied and I am sick of those who are capable of twisting every word to try to discredit anyone who may have something to say that isn't easy to hear. Reading William's response, I realize that Penn Mommy and I started our blogs for the same reason. We used it as a tool to write about our feelings/frustrations, etc. I didn't link mine anywhere or advertise it. When I opened it up to the public the end of June, I actually went on vacation and didn't even have internet access. When I got home, I realized that it had spread all over the internet and was linked in so many places that I couldn't keep track. I wasn't expecting that. I had no experience with public forums/discussion boards and it really shocked me.

For those of you who haven't been following the blogs over the last month, you can read a good summary of events HERE. I am asking that everyone remember that we are all real people. Please take a break from all of this and pray for this family. My heart is aching for them and to hear about the horrible things that are being said and done at this difficult time is sickening. People have actually taken it as far as calling the hospital to try to disprove Penn Mommy and make her out to be a liar. That is crossing the line!

Think long and hard about what you are actually defending. You don't have to agree with what has been said or why, how, when, etc. If you don't like what you read, then stop reading and move on. As many want to say, "If you don't like the show, then change the channel." I don't watch the show, but that doesn't mean the children are no longer being exploited. People have to be intentionally searching out information on the internet to run across my blog. I'm not forcing anyone to read it and as I said at the beginning, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm making information available for those who are looking. Everyone can form their own opinions based on what they have seen and read.

I appreciate the time William has taken to keep us updated on his brother's condition. He has handled this stressful situation in such a mature way and I think it's a testament to the kind of person Penn Mommy is. It's obvious that they have a loving, supportive family and they deserve respect in this difficult time.

GoogleReader said...

Part Two
This is William's response to the post that is linked above:

Man. I just want to thank you for writing what you’ve written here. If you’ll allow it, I’d like to expound on some of what you have said.

You’re on the money. My mom started the blog on my recommendation. It’s a long story. One worth telling, though. Growing up in the Wyo-Etown area makes you feel like your town is alot smaller than it really is. Everyone knows someone. True to form, everyone knows someone who knows the Gosselins. I was in my undergrad program around the time mom helped out the Gosselin Family. In the beginning, it gave her joy. She missed being needed by her boys. To this day, I think she’d marry me off for a dollar to have some grand babies of her own. She’s good at it. Me and my brothers have the mom who all of our friends envied. She was strict, but cool in her own way. She got us. She never judged us or our friends but made well timed suggestions when she felt something was out of order. When Jon came to church that day and announced Kate’s pregnancy, my mom put on her reading glasses and went to work planning. She called every person with a baby she could think of for clothes, furniture, and all the things babies need that I claim ignorance to. She defended the Gosselins to those who said “SIX BABIES?! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?” It was never a matter of judgement for her. Six babies were coming even if some didn’t approve and that was what mattered. She backed up Kate after my aunt heard her make ingrateful comments about the remodel on Home #1. I will never forget the spat they had on that issue. My aunt was livid and there’s my mom nodding, then saying “It is her home. How hard would it be to give up control of decorating a nursery?”

GoogleReader said...

Part Three:
Over the next year and a half or longer, mom went without if she heard there was a need. Not just for the Gosselins, though. Anyone. I did my parents taxes that year and all told mom donated about fifteen grand. The answer to my question was always the same, “It needed to be done.” My step-dad didn’t understand her, which most people didn’t, but it was mom. I just saw my first episode of Jon and Kate Plus 8. When Kate said she and Jon decided to see if they could make it alone one night and stopped the volunteers, I was floored. My other brother looked at me and laughed. The volunteers weren’t dismissed that congenially. It was more like Kate making her “friends” do the dirty work of letting someone know that they’d said or done something to upset Kate. Pretty soon, there weren’t many people left who would help. As evidence, I submit to you that there is no one left in their life pre-show. No one! I don’t have children. But, I’d like to think that if I survived eight children in three years because of my friends, I would still have those friends three years after. Friends and family work themselves into the fabric of our lives. Where’s the Gosselin tapestry?

One day, I get a phone call from my mom who’s telling me that Jodi has “come out”. She tells me Julie had a website. A few weeks later, she heard that Julie was getting slaughtered. Jodi made her video after that and mom heard that Julie was still being called a liar. One day at church, mom was told that Jon and Kate were talking about how hard it was to “Do it alone.”

I told her she should start journaling her feelings because she felt like Jodi and Julie were getting treated badly without cause. I didn’t expect her to do it. Her blog was like her diary to work things out. I don’t think she knew how public they can become. Soon after, the blog was found or shown to people and it, as Moon is saying, exploded.

Mom would never lie. She isn’t like that. The last thing she lied about in my memory was telling Jason that the Easter Bunny was real. I don’t think I need to say more than that.

google Reader said...

Part 5 million:
Jason and my mom have a unique bond. We all have a special bond with her. She never lumped us together as “the brothers”. She took us for who were were as individuals and I hope to be as good a parent as she was. She’s beautiful.

Jason’s illness and condition have deeply wounded her. She is in no condition to blog. My dad and I told her to stop. Just cut clean. Screw what people thought they wanted and needed. If people thought my mom was obligated to continue then they suck. One blogger named Fiona took it too far. I set up some logging technologies on mom’s blog and Fiona was using other names to support her pathetic agenda. I can name the following: Suzanne, fiona, shabnam, MADYSFAN, etc.,. By my count, she has thirteen identities. All ping back to her IP at a University of Utah. This is FUBAR. Unless a dorm full of chicks have a Kate Love Posse, she’s sock-puppeting the hell out of the internet. Suzanne (her real name) e-mailed my mom the same question, by my count and what I’ve seen, more than sixteen times. The real kicker is that mom answered it and she still asked. She asked questions about the kids that mom refused to answer and it pissed her off. Too bad! If you consider this person to be rational, then I feel sorry for you. She saddled up to my mom pretending to be a friend at the same time she was badmouthing her. Furthermore confirmation of Suzanne’s multiple personalities has come through an inbox full of e-mails. This Suzanne also had the nerve to start a thread talking about Jason’s illness and called my mom a liar. Suzanne/Fiona, you wrote my mom after she expressly stated she wouldn’t read your comments and said f-ed up things to her. She didn’t read them and she won’t. I read them and I think you’re certifiable. Get help.

Jason is not breathing on his own and will not be able to even if he wakes up. His seizures caused too much brain damage after the stroke. He’s had pieces of his brain tissue removed that were vital to independent living. My mom is hoping against hope that all the amazing prayers will be answered. She thanks each and every one of you for your love & prayers. She clings to them. Jonas and I have printed up some of them for her to see and she read them to my brother. Tomorrow is the day when our future course is decided. Either mom and dad(s) will transfer him to a long term care facility or we will watch him die and his organs harvested. I will never forget my brother. I never would have believed something like this could happen to him. The best word for it is tragic. He was passionate about his lfie in a way that made my brother and I envious. He was funny. Man was he funny. I don’t know how we will push through this but we will. Please give us time to grieve this. Please reserve any negative commentary for later or never. I beg all of you to give my mom space to mourn and remember. Thank you

LilFireFly said...

Been a while since I've seen the post I wrote that "William" so agrily dissected. Guess I really sucked at "scooby-doing" it. Thanks for the memories, I had no idea this stuff was still out there.

Wonder if anyone ever figured out who that pic really was?