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Open Discussion: 10/31 to tbd

Good Morning and Happy Halloween. Time to start another Open Discussion thread.

Sigh, I couldn't help but wonder what costumes the Gosselin kids will wear for trick-or-treating this year.

And what scary, new thing will Jon do today?

I hear that Sharla plans to dress up as a giant 7' tall female lumberjack wearing a flannel shirt. painter's pants and carpenter boots. To keep people from asking "how come you're not wearing a costume?", she plans to shave her beard.

Deep Analysis of Jon's ParentDish Manifesto: Question #19

It's Jon's word against Kate's as to whether the kids still want to film. It'll be easy enough for the custody Judge to determine which parent is putting false words in their children's mouths. Tsk. Tsk.

The thing I enjoyed most about this answer is Jon's slam against his own homeland, which apparently is a completely backwards, third-world nation run only by four-cylinder buses. Blech, guess I'll cross that country off my travel list.

PD: How do the kids feel about it?

JG: The kids are unanimous. They don't want to film. We filmed 152 episodes. What more can you possibly still film? You want us to go to the moon? You want us to take the kids and go to Korea? Are you crazy? They don't want to be on a four-cylinder bus in Korea. They want to be home in the pool. [Editor's note: TLC says they taped a total of 112 episodes.]

Hailey Glassman Interview

Several folks have asked for a thread dedicated to Hailey's upcoming 'tell-all' interview on The Insider.


Best I can tell from the previews, Hailey is auditioning for some sort of role on a daytime TV soap opera. Her eye make-up looks just like Laura Spencer's make-up when she worked at the disco with Luke. It's also the special kind of make-up that doesn't run all over your face when you turn on the waterworks. What a coincidence!

If I have any advice for Hailey's acting coach, it would be to teach Hailey how to enunciate more clearly while fake crying and to completely lose the New Yawka axecent.

Love means never having to say you're sorry, Hailey.

Doncha know that ?

What time does this thing come on? Do I have time to run out for some tissues?

Deep Analysis of Jon's ParentDish Manifesto: Question #18

Hopefully by now, someone with some basic legal expertise has explained to Jon that he's not being sued for talking his kids off the air. He is being sued for willfully breaching the terms of his TLC contract, which he everso wisely seems to admit in his answer to Question #18.

I also didn't think Jon used enough cliches in this answer. "Stepping up to the plate" and "God is on my side" is always good but there's nothing like "taking one for the Gipper", "come hell or high water", "Tomorrow is another day", or "Attica! Attica! Attica!" to really hammer home the point (or lack thereof).

And lemme just tell ya: when you're up against Williams & Connelly, you'll need God on your side. I've long wondered whether God has a special soft spot for pot-smoking, married daddies with multiple girlfriends (plural). Twill be a fun trial. I'm gonna pray it's televised.

Question #18:

PD: Some people would say you should've thought of that a long time ago.

JG: I always wanted to take the kids off the air but we would've been breaching the contract. I couldn't say that on the air because we would've been sued. They tried to fire me before I fired them. I'm stepping up to the plate. Whatever they want to do to me. Sue me. Send me to jail. I'm taking my kids off the air. What judge will say, 'Okay, your kids must be on film'? I know how it works. I'm not afraid of TLC now. God is on my side. TLC would say, 'You can't say this,' and now I'm just unleashing it.

GWOP Theatre: ACT IV

"Jesse Jackson Couldn't Make It"
by iwhyawli

For crap's sake, Jodi.
Isn't the damn show over?

We are now thankful
for the Balloon Boy family.

Hi !

Are the Gosselin kids damaged?

Don't answer that!

The kids didn't skip a beat.

So the show wasn't harmful?

Don't answer that one either!

Is Kate a

Stop that.

Ain't this is a Hoot?

So I'm watching the blithering Kreiders on Early Show today. Who would have thunk it? They're the only two folks left who continue to "exploit" the Gosselins kids! Ka-ching! Ka-ching!

I'm all for Jodi and Kevin and their on-going interviews. Sooner or later, one of these bonehead "journalists" will have the cojones to ask Jodi exactly how she squares giving that radaronline interview in which she publicly "whispers" that Kate is an adulteress. Maybe Gloria Alred can answer that question on Jodi's behalf. I hear she's lovely to work with. Maybe ol' Glor can also explain how the Kreider's giant lump-sum mortgage payment immediately following those radaronline interviews isn't "child exploitation" but everything everybody else does is.

I roll my eyes at Jodi and Kevin's attempt to tie everything to the Balloon Boy saga. It's a good thing Mr. Balloon Boy wasn't just trying to sell his Balloon invention or call attention to global warming. Good thing he didn't do what he did because he's just plain nuts. Cause something like that would really throw a kink in Jodi's master plan to plant her mug on every TV show she can. As we all know, parents only "exploit" their kids when they're trying to get on a Reality TV show. (eyeroll).

Yes, Reality TV is the root of all evil. If Reality TV didn't exist, we would never see parents exploit their kids. We would have no child prostitution. The sweat shops in Thailand? They'd be closed. Welfare parents wouldn't spend their checks on cigarettes, booze, drugs and lottery tickets. No parent (especially not saints like the Kreiders) would ever tell their kids age to lie about their ages for cheaper fares at Disney World. We'd never see parents exploiting their parenthood to weasel out of overtime or working weekends. And when mom's and dad's cancel out of going over to Auntie Julie's house for pumpkin carving, it'll only be because their kids really truly are sick (cough, cough).

I shouldn't say this out loud because I do know Jodi reads here, but I sure hope none of those Gosselin kids want to become an Olympian. All those little Michael Phelps' and Tonya Hardings of tomorrow aren't even paid for practicing everyday, all day since age 3. Talk about a stolen childhood! If Jodi gets wind of that Olympics con, there will be complete hell to pay. It could mean the end of the Olympics as we know it.

But maybe as long as the Kreider kids don't show any interest in the Olympics or get themselves booted off an Olympic team, we're safe. Fortunately, they don't seem very athletic. Or all that healthy.

It must be all the gum.

Deep Analysis of Jon Gosselin's ParentDish Manifesto: Question #17

Jon's answer to question #17 earned a real-deal chortle when I read "they locked in a contract" as if Jon wasn't present in the room when he signed it. Sure, I realize he may have been higher than a kite at the time but can he really blame anyone else?

If we trust Jon's figures (which I don't), $1250 x 112 = $140,000 per year. For a 6-year-old, that ain't bad coin. For a 32 year-old man, that's not bad coin either and most likely far more than he was making previously. If it weren't, why he would quit his "real" job (except that Jon's mortally stupid.)

Why am I not surprised that Jon's expertise isn't math or tax law?

As to sacrificing privacy, I'm not sure what privacy the kids sacrificed. But when "privacy" otherwise means unfettered opportunities to boink the babysitter, smoke pot and not do jack-squat around the house, yeah, $ 1,250 per episode is probably not enough.

Question 17:

PD: How much of that do you see?

JG: $25,000 per episode. It's awfully low. They locked in a contract and we're in the 50 percent tax bracket, so it's $12,500, so each of us gets $1,250 per episode. People think I make $75,000, $100,000 per episode. My kids sacrifice their privacy for this?

Deep Analysis of Jon Gosselin's ParentDish Manifesto: Question #14, #15 & #16

I'd like to say we're almost near the end of the Parentdish interview but seriously, the thing never ends.

Peppered throughout his responses to questions 14 through 16, we see several more examples of Jon taking "the high road", which I'm now convinced he defines to mean "taking the road while high." Does Jon also now regret his answer regarding the missing $230K? Yeah, of course, he does.

I haven't read yet where that money has been returned. The deadline is tomorrow, right? I'm guessing he won't do it thereby forcing Kate to decide whether the father of her children goes jail. If it were me, he'd be going to jail.

Questions 14 - 16:

PD: That's so sweet.

JG: Yeah, I'm not used to that. It's totally different than it was with Kate.

PD: What do you mean?

JG: I look at Kate and say, 'What are you doing? Why are you airing our dirty laundry?

PD: Why do you think she's talking publicly?

JG: She hired an attorney that says I stole $230,000 and it's so not true and I can prove it. Who is she proving this to? No one cares. You look like the biggest ass somehow. She's throwing me under the bus. Her and TLC. They don't like me because I want to pull my kids off TV. They made $186 million last quarter, $143 million of that from Jon & Kate Plus 8. [Editor's note: A TLC spokesperson declined to verify the numbers to ParentDish.]