In Support of Penn Mommy
Oct 1, 2008
Penn Mommy and I have shared a similar experience. I actually didn't know the story behind the reasons she started her blog until I read a response from her son, William (pasted below). For anyone who may be questioning her credibility, let me assure you that she is who she says she is. I know that my identity was questioned for some time, but I think there is enough "proof" that I am Jodi's sister and I'm not lying. You may not agree with the reasons I felt that I needed to come forward, but until any of you have had a "real" life experience with Jon and Kate (I'm not talking about a speaking engagement), you are basing your opinions on speculation and characters on a TV show. The supporters love to use the phrase, "Don't judge them unless you have walked in their shoes." Well, the same applies to me, Jodi, Penn Mommy and anyone else who has spoken out based on our "real" life experiences. None of you have walked in OUR shoes, so until you can come back and report on your own real life experiences, don't judge those of us who actually KNOW them.
I do not know Penn Mommy, but I have communicated with her and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that what she says is true. She has not lied and I am sick of those who are capable of twisting every word to try to discredit anyone who may have something to say that isn't easy to hear. Reading William's response, I realize that Penn Mommy and I started our blogs for the same reason. We used it as a tool to write about our feelings/frustrations, etc. I didn't link mine anywhere or advertise it. When I opened it up to the public the end of June, I actually went on vacation and didn't even have internet access. When I got home, I realized that it had spread all over the internet and was linked in so many places that I couldn't keep track. I wasn't expecting that. I had no experience with public forums/discussion boards and it really shocked me.
For those of you who haven't been following the blogs over the last month, you can read a good summary of events HERE. I am asking that everyone remember that we are all real people. Please take a break from all of this and pray for this family. My heart is aching for them and to hear about the horrible things that are being said and done at this difficult time is sickening. People have actually taken it as far as calling the hospital to try to disprove Penn Mommy and make her out to be a liar. That is crossing the line!
Think long and hard about what you are actually defending. You don't have to agree with what has been said or why, how, when, etc. If you don't like what you read, then stop reading and move on. As many want to say, "If you don't like the show, then change the channel." I don't watch the show, but that doesn't mean the children are no longer being exploited. People have to be intentionally searching out information on the internet to run across my blog. I'm not forcing anyone to read it and as I said at the beginning, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm making information available for those who are looking. Everyone can form their own opinions based on what they have seen and read.
I appreciate the time William has taken to keep us updated on his brother's condition. He has handled this stressful situation in such a mature way and I think it's a testament to the kind of person Penn Mommy is. It's obvious that they have a loving, supportive family and they deserve respect in this difficult time. This is William's response to the post that is linked above:
Man. I just want to thank you for writing what you’ve written here. If you’ll allow it, I’d like to expound on some of what you have said.
You’re on the money. My mom started the blog on my recommendation. It’s a long story. One worth telling, though. Growing up in the Wyo-Etown area makes you feel like your town is alot smaller than it really is. Everyone knows someone. True to form, everyone knows someone who knows the Gosselins. I was in my undergrad program around the time mom helped out the Gosselin Family. In the beginning, it gave her joy. She missed being needed by her boys. To this day, I think she’d marry me off for a dollar to have some grand babies of her own. She’s good at it. Me and my brothers have the mom who all of our friends envied. She was strict, but cool in her own way. She got us. She never judged us or our friends but made well timed suggestions when she felt something was out of order. When Jon came to church that day and announced Kate’s pregnancy, my mom put on her reading glasses and went to work planning. She called every person with a baby she could think of for clothes, furniture, and all the things babies need that I claim ignorance to. She defended the Gosselins to those who said “SIX BABIES?! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?” It was never a matter of judgement for her. Six babies were coming even if some didn’t approve and that was what mattered. She backed up Kate after my aunt heard her make ingrateful comments about the remodel on Home #1. I will never forget the spat they had on that issue. My aunt was livid and there’s my mom nodding, then saying “It is her home. How hard would it be to give up control of decorating a nursery?”
Over the next year and a half or longer, mom went without if she heard there was a need. Not just for the Gosselins, though. Anyone. I did my parents taxes that year and all told mom donated about fifteen grand. The answer to my question was always the same, “It needed to be done.” My step-dad didn’t understand her, which most people didn’t, but it was mom. I just saw my first episode of Jon and Kate Plus 8. When Kate said she and Jon decided to see if they could make it alone one night and stopped the volunteers, I was floored. My other brother looked at me and laughed. The volunteers weren’t dismissed that congenially. It was more like Kate making her “friends” do the dirty work of letting someone know that they’d said or done something to upset Kate. Pretty soon, there weren’t many people left who would help. As evidence, I submit to you that there is no one left in their life pre-show. No one! I don’t have children. But, I’d like to think that if I survived eight children in three years because of my friends, I would still have those friends three years after. Friends and family work themselves into the fabric of our lives. Where’s the Gosselin tapestry?
One day, I get a phone call from my mom who’s telling me that Jodi has “come out”. She tells me Julie had a website. A few weeks later, she heard that Julie was getting slaughtered. Jodi made her video after that and mom heard that Julie was still being called a liar. One day at church, mom was told that Jon and Kate were talking about how hard it was to “Do it alone.”
I told her she should start journaling her feelings because she felt like Jodi and Julie were getting treated badly without cause. I didn’t expect her to do it. Her blog was like her diary to work things out. I don’t think she knew how public they can become. Soon after, the blog was found or shown to people and it, as Moon is saying, exploded.
Mom would never lie. She isn’t like that. The last thing she lied about in my memory was telling Jason that the Easter Bunny was real. I don’t think I need to say more than that.
Jason and my mom have a unique bond. We all have a special bond with her. She never lumped us together as “the brothers”. She took us for who were were as individuals and I hope to be as good a parent as she was. She’s beautiful.
Jason’s illness and condition have deeply wounded her. She is in no condition to blog. My dad and I told her to stop. Just cut clean. Screw what people thought they wanted and needed. If people thought my mom was obligated to continue then they suck. One blogger named Fiona took it too far. I set up some logging technologies on mom’s blog and Fiona was using other names to support her pathetic agenda. I can name the following: Suzanne, fiona, shabnam, MADYSFAN, etc.,. By my count, she has thirteen identities. All ping back to her IP at a University of Utah. This is FUBAR. Unless a dorm full of chicks have a Kate Love Posse, she’s sock-puppeting the hell out of the internet. Suzanne (her real name) e-mailed my mom the same question, by my count and what I’ve seen, more than sixteen times. The real kicker is that mom answered it and she still asked. She asked questions about the kids that mom refused to answer and it pissed her off. Too bad! If you consider this person to be rational, then I feel sorry for you. She saddled up to my mom pretending to be a friend at the same time she was badmouthing her. Furthermore confirmation of Suzanne’s multiple personalities has come through an inbox full of e-mails. This Suzanne also had the nerve to start a thread talking about Jason’s illness and called my mom a liar. Suzanne/Fiona, you wrote my mom after she expressly stated she wouldn’t read your comments and said f-ed up things to her. She didn’t read them and she won’t. I read them and I think you’re certifiable. Get help.
Jason is not breathing on his own and will not be able to even if he wakes up. His seizures caused too much brain damage after the stroke. He’s had pieces of his brain tissue removed that were vital to independent living. My mom is hoping against hope that all the amazing prayers will be answered. She thanks each and every one of you for your love & prayers. She clings to them. Jonas and I have printed up some of them for her to see and she read them to my brother. Tomorrow is the day when our future course is decided. Either mom and dad(s) will transfer him to a long term care facility or we will watch him die and his organs harvested. I will never forget my brother. I never would have believed something like this could happen to him. The best word for it is tragic. He was passionate about his lfie in a way that made my brother and I envious. He was funny. Man was he funny. I don’t know how we will push through this but we will. Please give us time to grieve this. Please reserve any negative commentary for later or never. I beg all of you to give my mom space to mourn and remember. Thank you.
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[12 of 13] Julie's Deleted Posts - National Enquirer
National Enquirer
July 21, 2008
I believe that the statement below (from J&K's website) is in response to being featured in the July 28, 2008 issue of the National Enquirer. The statement was posted for several days, but has recently been removed.
To our faithful fans who deserve an answer,In the recent days, we have been informed there are a lot of lies circulating about us. Just so you know we have worked hard to show you our real life and we have succeeded. Although it is not always easy we will continue to show you the good, the bad and the ugly on our show. Unfortunately, as with anyone who is on TV there are jealous bystanders, family included, who for whatever reason insist upon telling hurtful untruths. We will continue to love these family members. We will not retaliate. We will leave it alone out of respect for them. But as a reminder, nothing that you read on the internet or in print is true unless it is approved by us. Thank you for watching as our family grows and develops. Our children have always been our priority, will continue to be our top priority and quite honestly nothing else matters to us.
(This message has been personally written by Jon and Kate Gosselin)
Just a few observations:
We will not retaliate. Seems like this statement IS retaliation. When presented with the truth, they always respond "they're just jealous". So anyone who states true facts that J&K don't want anyone else to know--is a jealous liar--including family?
We will continue to love these family members. Who are they talking about? Jodi? Me? They are acknowledging that this information is coming from family.
I find it interesting that they are calling this hurtful "untruths". They can't come out and say everything is lies, because they know I'm telling the truth. They'll use semantics to explain everything if need be.
"But as a reminder, nothing that you read on the internet or in print is true unless it is approved by us."
I don't think this statement even deserves a comment. It appears that history is repeating itself. Kate pulled this same stunt over 3 years ago. You can read the entire article here.
"The Gosselins called the day after my telephone interview with Kate. They asked to preview this column before publication. My editor declined their request. Kate then said she wanted to retract everything -- even though she admitted all of it was true."
I'm sure their PR person advised them to take this poorly written nonsense off their website
July 21, 2008
I believe that the statement below (from J&K's website) is in response to being featured in the July 28, 2008 issue of the National Enquirer. The statement was posted for several days, but has recently been removed.
To our faithful fans who deserve an answer,In the recent days, we have been informed there are a lot of lies circulating about us. Just so you know we have worked hard to show you our real life and we have succeeded. Although it is not always easy we will continue to show you the good, the bad and the ugly on our show. Unfortunately, as with anyone who is on TV there are jealous bystanders, family included, who for whatever reason insist upon telling hurtful untruths. We will continue to love these family members. We will not retaliate. We will leave it alone out of respect for them. But as a reminder, nothing that you read on the internet or in print is true unless it is approved by us. Thank you for watching as our family grows and develops. Our children have always been our priority, will continue to be our top priority and quite honestly nothing else matters to us.
(This message has been personally written by Jon and Kate Gosselin)
Just a few observations:
We will not retaliate. Seems like this statement IS retaliation. When presented with the truth, they always respond "they're just jealous". So anyone who states true facts that J&K don't want anyone else to know--is a jealous liar--including family?
We will continue to love these family members. Who are they talking about? Jodi? Me? They are acknowledging that this information is coming from family.
I find it interesting that they are calling this hurtful "untruths". They can't come out and say everything is lies, because they know I'm telling the truth. They'll use semantics to explain everything if need be.
"But as a reminder, nothing that you read on the internet or in print is true unless it is approved by us."
I don't think this statement even deserves a comment. It appears that history is repeating itself. Kate pulled this same stunt over 3 years ago. You can read the entire article here.
"The Gosselins called the day after my telephone interview with Kate. They asked to preview this column before publication. My editor declined their request. Kate then said she wanted to retract everything -- even though she admitted all of it was true."
I'm sure their PR person advised them to take this poorly written nonsense off their website
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[10 of 13] Julie's Deleted Posts - Gum-Gate Part 3
Gum-Gate Part 3
July 14, 2008
Kate calls Jodi and then Kate explains that "Evidently, the kids got into the gumballs, and once they had them, Jodi didn't know what to do." This comment really irritated me!! Like Jodi doesn't have a brain in her head to figure things out. Since 3 of the kids already had gum, she decided to allow the other 3 to have one gumball. BIG DEAL!! The kids didn't convince her of anything. They know they chew gum, and Jodi knows they chew gum. J&K seem to be very inconsistent with their "rules". An example: the kids can eat ice cream for dinner on a "special day", yet they can't eat a cupcake "on a special day" unless they eat dinner. I'm sure it's very confusing for them.
Then Kate says Jodi's such a loving and..."not forceful individual"...Jon decided to chime in and started laughing as they both said "and they know that". I'm sure Jon was just happy that someone else was getting it from Kate. They looked at each other and laughed, as if it were their "inside joke". Kate went on to state how they would have handled the situation. Well, when you leave your kids with someone else, you can't expect them to handle things exactly as you would. Kate says, "They convinced Aunt Jodi that mommy lets them chew gum at home. Yeah, right!" What I have to say to that is--they weren't in YOUR home! I already stated my opinion--they didn't "convince" Jodi. Kate made it sound like she is easily manipulated. Jodi isn't a new mom. She has plenty of experience with her own four children. That's just ridiculous!
They say they have a standing gum rule--they're not allowed to chew gum until they're 4. Then they had to back up and say, "unless we're flying on an airplane". I guess they forgot about the ski trip, and maybe that it's alright if they want to keep them quiet. If safety is the concern, is it any less of a choking risk to chew gum on a plane? Kate only talked about being upset that she had to do extra laundry and stain removal. Maybe the real reason she's obsessed with the laundry is that she wants "top dollar" when she consigns all of the free clothes they receive. I also read a theory that some think she's trying to get an endorsement from a laundry detergent or stain removal company.
Back to Collin...I made the mistake of allowing my 9 yr old to watch the episode with me. As I watched, I found it very cruel to threaten to throw out a child's security item. Collin was crying and said "teddy bear's my buddy". What did Kate yell? "TOO BAD!!" There is absolutely no excuse for this, IMO. She hadn't been with the kids all day, so it's not like this happened at the end of her exhausting and stressful day as the mother of eight. I can't imagine the terror that Collin was feeling at the thought of losing his bear! I don't care what the end result was. For those few moments, Collin actually believed she was going to throw it in the trash. I'll stop there, but that was one of the most heartbreaking things to watch.
My son didn't say anything until the show was over. I looked over at him, and he had tears in his eyes. He asked me why she was so mean and why she was yelling at the kids. The next thing he said really struck me, and I hadn't said a word as we were watching. He related Collin to his younger sister. She has a special "blankie" as a security object, and he knows how important it is to her. He said, "[my sister] has marker and stains all over her [blankie] and you'd never throw it out. You don't care that it has stains." Hearing his response and seeing how upsetting that was for him to watch, really hit me hard. I will never allow my kids to watch the show again. It also shows how older siblings really look out for the younger ones. Mady stood up to Kate for Collin. My son was thinking about his younger sister. And I guess, I'm still looking out for mine.
July 14, 2008
Kate calls Jodi and then Kate explains that "Evidently, the kids got into the gumballs, and once they had them, Jodi didn't know what to do." This comment really irritated me!! Like Jodi doesn't have a brain in her head to figure things out. Since 3 of the kids already had gum, she decided to allow the other 3 to have one gumball. BIG DEAL!! The kids didn't convince her of anything. They know they chew gum, and Jodi knows they chew gum. J&K seem to be very inconsistent with their "rules". An example: the kids can eat ice cream for dinner on a "special day", yet they can't eat a cupcake "on a special day" unless they eat dinner. I'm sure it's very confusing for them.
Then Kate says Jodi's such a loving and..."not forceful individual"...Jon decided to chime in and started laughing as they both said "and they know that". I'm sure Jon was just happy that someone else was getting it from Kate. They looked at each other and laughed, as if it were their "inside joke". Kate went on to state how they would have handled the situation. Well, when you leave your kids with someone else, you can't expect them to handle things exactly as you would. Kate says, "They convinced Aunt Jodi that mommy lets them chew gum at home. Yeah, right!" What I have to say to that is--they weren't in YOUR home! I already stated my opinion--they didn't "convince" Jodi. Kate made it sound like she is easily manipulated. Jodi isn't a new mom. She has plenty of experience with her own four children. That's just ridiculous!
They say they have a standing gum rule--they're not allowed to chew gum until they're 4. Then they had to back up and say, "unless we're flying on an airplane". I guess they forgot about the ski trip, and maybe that it's alright if they want to keep them quiet. If safety is the concern, is it any less of a choking risk to chew gum on a plane? Kate only talked about being upset that she had to do extra laundry and stain removal. Maybe the real reason she's obsessed with the laundry is that she wants "top dollar" when she consigns all of the free clothes they receive. I also read a theory that some think she's trying to get an endorsement from a laundry detergent or stain removal company.
Back to Collin...I made the mistake of allowing my 9 yr old to watch the episode with me. As I watched, I found it very cruel to threaten to throw out a child's security item. Collin was crying and said "teddy bear's my buddy". What did Kate yell? "TOO BAD!!" There is absolutely no excuse for this, IMO. She hadn't been with the kids all day, so it's not like this happened at the end of her exhausting and stressful day as the mother of eight. I can't imagine the terror that Collin was feeling at the thought of losing his bear! I don't care what the end result was. For those few moments, Collin actually believed she was going to throw it in the trash. I'll stop there, but that was one of the most heartbreaking things to watch.
My son didn't say anything until the show was over. I looked over at him, and he had tears in his eyes. He asked me why she was so mean and why she was yelling at the kids. The next thing he said really struck me, and I hadn't said a word as we were watching. He related Collin to his younger sister. She has a special "blankie" as a security object, and he knows how important it is to her. He said, "[my sister] has marker and stains all over her [blankie] and you'd never throw it out. You don't care that it has stains." Hearing his response and seeing how upsetting that was for him to watch, really hit me hard. I will never allow my kids to watch the show again. It also shows how older siblings really look out for the younger ones. Mady stood up to Kate for Collin. My son was thinking about his younger sister. And I guess, I'm still looking out for mine.
[9 of 13] Julie's Deleted Posts - Gum-Gate Part 2
Gum-Gate Part 2
Jul 12, 2008
As I watched this again, it remains a little baffling to me that the issue of Jodi giving the kids gum really didn’t have anything to do with safety. Not once did I hear Kate or Jon say anything about gum being a choking risk. The only thing that was talked about was the inconvenience for Kate. Laundry and stain removal was the ONLY thing that was discussed. They had no standing rule, that Jodi was aware of, when it comes to gum. Jodi has traveled with them, so she’s seen the kids get gum on the airplane. I haven’t seen this episode, but I’ve read that Jon gave one of the sextuplets gum on the ski trip. Jodi has also seen them give the kids gum when they are out, as a way to keep them quiet.
I also hate gum, but when I leave my children in the care of someone else, I don't expect them to follow all of my likes and dislikes. Jodi has seen their own parents give them gum, she obviously felt they could handle it, and they were in HER home. She ran the risk of gum getting into her carpet and on her furniture. She gave them specific instructions about the gum--they were to give it to her when they were done and she asked them not to swallow it.
When Jodi watches my kids, I tell her she has my blessing to do whatever makes her life easier. She is a loving, responsible mother, and I don’t care about stains and candy/gum when they are in her care. Doesn't an aunt have the right to spoil her nieces and nephews? I know what Jodi feeds her kids and how health conscious she is. My main concern is that I don't have to worry because my children are loved and cared for as if they were her own. That, to me, is priceless.
So keep in mind that as I watch the episode, I’m looking at it from a little different perspective than most. Those who know Jodi were extremely offended by this episode. It wasn’t the editing, but the actual comments made by Jon and Kate. She’s also had complete strangers come up to her, and tell her how sorry they are about “the gum”. Jodi never called her family and friends trying to get sympathy. She doesn’t even like discussing the show with anyone. Everyone sought her out.
Let me try to explain why this is so upsetting to watch.
Within the first two minutes of the show, I was disgusted with Kate. She’s explaining the filming of eight special days, one after the other over a span of a few weeks. She goes on to say that it becomes a lot of days for the little kids to go to Aunt Jodi’s when they’re used to being at home every day. “They’re getting tired of going to Aunt Jodi’s.” Hold on—even if that were true, which I really doubt, is that something that needs to be said? It was President’s Day, so the older kids were also at home. That leaves Jodi with 11 kids to watch. “They’re getting tired of it, and I don’t blame them.” You’ve got to be kidding me!! She actually said it twice!
I find it VERY hard to believe that the kids would be tired of going to Aunt Jodi’s house. They get to relax and have fun with their cousins. It just makes me wonder why she would say that- seemed like a little jab at Jodi to me. Maybe Kate resents the fact that the kids WANT to go to Jodi’s house? That comment didn’t sound like someone who is grateful to the person who provides their child care.
A little more than half way through the episode, they show the scene with Jodi giving the kids the gum. Later, Jon and Kate are explaining what happened during the interview time. Kate says that after Mady was done showing off her earrings-- "we noticed the gum". That wasn't entirely true. I explained in the previous post that Jon and Jodi actually inspected the kids at Jodi's house. So Jon already knew about the gum. Did he tell Kate when he brought the kids home? I do wonder how that all played out. Of course, he just sat there, letting Kate tell the story.
She runs over to Joel and screams "NO WAY!" right in his face. "Who would give you gum? Aunt Jodi just doesn't know the power of six 3 yr olds." I'm sure Jodi is very aware of what it takes to care for her nieces and nephews. It may not be all day/every day, but it was a lot more than was ever shown on TV. Then Kate says, "as I started looking, it was all over the kids clothes, like little pieces of it." Jodi told me that gum was only on the two things--just as was shown on TV. Jon actually inspected the kids with her. I guess Kate had to try and justify her behavior. She acted that way because gum was "all over the kids clothes". That gives her the right to freak out and terrorize her son--she was sooo stressed! This is again, one of Kate's exaggerations. Just on the most recent episode about the sextuplet's 4th birthday, she said Jon wouldn't like to change a hundred kids. Eight is a far cry from one hundred.
Kate then calls into the next room, "Collin, if your bear has gum on it, I'm throwing it in the trash. I'm not getting it out!" She then goes into laundry and stain removal. She says, "no more gum at Aunt Jodi's. That's just plain ludicrous!!" She goes into how they're going away and she has to pack. "Honestly, I don't know what people are thinking. I love Jodi, but I don't know what would possess her to give six 3 yr olds gum when they are in her care." More laundry talk and then she says she throwing the bear away. Collin is crying. Mady steps up and tries to explain, but Kate just yells at her, "We don't chew gum when we're 3!!"
This entire scene is just heartbreaking to watch! I feel for Jodi because I think Kate's reaction and her comments do make her seem irresponsible. IMO, her comments were very hurtful and unfair. She made it seem like Jodi was out of her mind to give the kids gum. Well, Kate's also said she'd never attempt to do projects with her own kids like Jodi does with them. Jodi isn't obsessed with laundry and messes. She knows the importance of allowing the kids to just be kids. If she chooses to allow the kids to do different things when they are with her, I don't see anything wrong with that. Let me just remind everyone that she has seen J&K give their own kids gum on several different occasions.
What I think is even worse than the comments, is the scene with Collin. I honestly wished Kate would have walked up to Jodi's house and taken out her frustrations on Jodi. She's an adult and she can handle herself. I'm sure as Jodi was watching the scene unfold on TV, completely unaware of what had happened after they left her home, she wished the same thing. Jodi felt horrible for what Collin had to endure. She would have gladly taken the "wrath of Kate" to spare Collin. Also, keep in mind that what was shown apparently wasn't the worst of her reaction.
To be continued...
Jul 12, 2008
As I watched this again, it remains a little baffling to me that the issue of Jodi giving the kids gum really didn’t have anything to do with safety. Not once did I hear Kate or Jon say anything about gum being a choking risk. The only thing that was talked about was the inconvenience for Kate. Laundry and stain removal was the ONLY thing that was discussed. They had no standing rule, that Jodi was aware of, when it comes to gum. Jodi has traveled with them, so she’s seen the kids get gum on the airplane. I haven’t seen this episode, but I’ve read that Jon gave one of the sextuplets gum on the ski trip. Jodi has also seen them give the kids gum when they are out, as a way to keep them quiet.
I also hate gum, but when I leave my children in the care of someone else, I don't expect them to follow all of my likes and dislikes. Jodi has seen their own parents give them gum, she obviously felt they could handle it, and they were in HER home. She ran the risk of gum getting into her carpet and on her furniture. She gave them specific instructions about the gum--they were to give it to her when they were done and she asked them not to swallow it.
When Jodi watches my kids, I tell her she has my blessing to do whatever makes her life easier. She is a loving, responsible mother, and I don’t care about stains and candy/gum when they are in her care. Doesn't an aunt have the right to spoil her nieces and nephews? I know what Jodi feeds her kids and how health conscious she is. My main concern is that I don't have to worry because my children are loved and cared for as if they were her own. That, to me, is priceless.
So keep in mind that as I watch the episode, I’m looking at it from a little different perspective than most. Those who know Jodi were extremely offended by this episode. It wasn’t the editing, but the actual comments made by Jon and Kate. She’s also had complete strangers come up to her, and tell her how sorry they are about “the gum”. Jodi never called her family and friends trying to get sympathy. She doesn’t even like discussing the show with anyone. Everyone sought her out.
Let me try to explain why this is so upsetting to watch.
Within the first two minutes of the show, I was disgusted with Kate. She’s explaining the filming of eight special days, one after the other over a span of a few weeks. She goes on to say that it becomes a lot of days for the little kids to go to Aunt Jodi’s when they’re used to being at home every day. “They’re getting tired of going to Aunt Jodi’s.” Hold on—even if that were true, which I really doubt, is that something that needs to be said? It was President’s Day, so the older kids were also at home. That leaves Jodi with 11 kids to watch. “They’re getting tired of it, and I don’t blame them.” You’ve got to be kidding me!! She actually said it twice!
I find it VERY hard to believe that the kids would be tired of going to Aunt Jodi’s house. They get to relax and have fun with their cousins. It just makes me wonder why she would say that- seemed like a little jab at Jodi to me. Maybe Kate resents the fact that the kids WANT to go to Jodi’s house? That comment didn’t sound like someone who is grateful to the person who provides their child care.
A little more than half way through the episode, they show the scene with Jodi giving the kids the gum. Later, Jon and Kate are explaining what happened during the interview time. Kate says that after Mady was done showing off her earrings-- "we noticed the gum". That wasn't entirely true. I explained in the previous post that Jon and Jodi actually inspected the kids at Jodi's house. So Jon already knew about the gum. Did he tell Kate when he brought the kids home? I do wonder how that all played out. Of course, he just sat there, letting Kate tell the story.
She runs over to Joel and screams "NO WAY!" right in his face. "Who would give you gum? Aunt Jodi just doesn't know the power of six 3 yr olds." I'm sure Jodi is very aware of what it takes to care for her nieces and nephews. It may not be all day/every day, but it was a lot more than was ever shown on TV. Then Kate says, "as I started looking, it was all over the kids clothes, like little pieces of it." Jodi told me that gum was only on the two things--just as was shown on TV. Jon actually inspected the kids with her. I guess Kate had to try and justify her behavior. She acted that way because gum was "all over the kids clothes". That gives her the right to freak out and terrorize her son--she was sooo stressed! This is again, one of Kate's exaggerations. Just on the most recent episode about the sextuplet's 4th birthday, she said Jon wouldn't like to change a hundred kids. Eight is a far cry from one hundred.
Kate then calls into the next room, "Collin, if your bear has gum on it, I'm throwing it in the trash. I'm not getting it out!" She then goes into laundry and stain removal. She says, "no more gum at Aunt Jodi's. That's just plain ludicrous!!" She goes into how they're going away and she has to pack. "Honestly, I don't know what people are thinking. I love Jodi, but I don't know what would possess her to give six 3 yr olds gum when they are in her care." More laundry talk and then she says she throwing the bear away. Collin is crying. Mady steps up and tries to explain, but Kate just yells at her, "We don't chew gum when we're 3!!"
This entire scene is just heartbreaking to watch! I feel for Jodi because I think Kate's reaction and her comments do make her seem irresponsible. IMO, her comments were very hurtful and unfair. She made it seem like Jodi was out of her mind to give the kids gum. Well, Kate's also said she'd never attempt to do projects with her own kids like Jodi does with them. Jodi isn't obsessed with laundry and messes. She knows the importance of allowing the kids to just be kids. If she chooses to allow the kids to do different things when they are with her, I don't see anything wrong with that. Let me just remind everyone that she has seen J&K give their own kids gum on several different occasions.
What I think is even worse than the comments, is the scene with Collin. I honestly wished Kate would have walked up to Jodi's house and taken out her frustrations on Jodi. She's an adult and she can handle herself. I'm sure as Jodi was watching the scene unfold on TV, completely unaware of what had happened after they left her home, she wished the same thing. Jodi felt horrible for what Collin had to endure. She would have gladly taken the "wrath of Kate" to spare Collin. Also, keep in mind that what was shown apparently wasn't the worst of her reaction.
To be continued...
[8 of 13] Julie's Deleted Posts - Gumgate 1
Gumgate 1
Jul 10, 2008
During one of our conversations around the middle of April, Jodi asked me if I had happened to watch the episode that aired that week. The last show I had watched was Sextuplets turn 3, which was about 6 months prior to this. She said if I still had it taped, I should watch it. I asked why, but she wouldn’t give me any information. She just said she wanted my opinion on something. So I went back and found “Mady’s Day” and was curious about what I was going to see. From the very first minute of the show, I was irritated. I’ll get to the show in my next post, but I just have to give a little more information so everyone knows where I’m coming from.
After I watched, we immediately got on web cam and my first question was, “did Kate tell you about this before it aired?” I know that they receive the episode a week or so before it airs, so I thought surely Kate would have warned Jodi or had said something. Not a word. The next thing I asked was, “has she said anything to you since it aired?” Our conversation took place on Wednesday or Thursday that week, so a few days had gone by. Not a word!
I then asked her if she had any clue what had happened. She said that when Jon picked up the kids that day, that they noticed the gum on Joel’s sock, and inspected all of the kids. There was only a speck of gum on Joel’s sock and Collin’s bear, just as was shown on TV. Kate called Jodi, and said no more gum, and I don’t think their conversation gave Jodi any indication as to what had happened after the kids left her house. About a week later, someone from the crew made a comment to Jodi about "the gum", but I can't elaborate on what else was said.
As I watched this episode, I knew that February and March were extremely busy for Jodi. They were filming the one on one days, and on several of the days, the older kids were out of school due to President’s Day, a snow day and spring break. She had 11 kids on those days. Then they filmed the hair plugs episode the end of March and Jodi had all of the kids for 3 FULL days. So knowing all of this, and then watching the episode that aired a few weeks later---I was disgusted with both Jon and Kate!
I told Jodi how sorry I was, and we discussed my observations of what aired. I think the editing does sometimes make Jodi appear to be passive or a little ditsy (at least what I've seen), but I think part of that is contrasting the two personalities for the show. Most people would look meek and mild if they were being compared to Kate. What bothered me more than the editing were the actual comments by Jon and Kate during the interview. They were giving the impression that Jodi lets the kids walk all over her, which I know is not true. Just because she can handle the kids without screaming and yelling, doesn't mean there are no rules and she lets the kids go wild. Jodi's kids are the most well behaved kids I've been around, and I've seen her discipline her children. She is not a doormat! She always treats her children with respect and they respect her.
She said that many were criticizing her because the editing and J&K's comments made her look like she was irresponsible. I couldn't believe this! I didn't know what she was talking about! Well, curiosity got the best of Jodi, and she went on the TWoP discussion board to see what was being said. That board was being heavily monitored by J&K, and every once in a while, Jodi would also do a little reading. She sent me the link, and that's when my eyes were opened. As I stated before, I had stopped watching the show, so other than what Jodi would tell me about her own experiences, I didn't really know what was going on in the episodes.
After I read some of the posts, I saw that although there were some critical comments about Jodi, the majority were criticizing J&K. That's where I heard the term "GumGate"--I actually laughed out loud! As I was reading, I kept wondering who these people were. I was confident that some of them had to know J&K personally, or at least have some sort of "inside" knowledge. I couldn't believe how they could possibly piece everything together, just by watching a 30 minute episode. How did they know so much? How could they see through the charade, and know what was really going on? It was all so fascinating! I posted on there a few times, but didn't say who I was. I was quickly banned because I forgot to put "IMO", and stated something as fact. I decided to just be a lurker and found the whole thing rather entertaining. IMO, it was a lot more entertaining than the show.
Jul 10, 2008
During one of our conversations around the middle of April, Jodi asked me if I had happened to watch the episode that aired that week. The last show I had watched was Sextuplets turn 3, which was about 6 months prior to this. She said if I still had it taped, I should watch it. I asked why, but she wouldn’t give me any information. She just said she wanted my opinion on something. So I went back and found “Mady’s Day” and was curious about what I was going to see. From the very first minute of the show, I was irritated. I’ll get to the show in my next post, but I just have to give a little more information so everyone knows where I’m coming from.
After I watched, we immediately got on web cam and my first question was, “did Kate tell you about this before it aired?” I know that they receive the episode a week or so before it airs, so I thought surely Kate would have warned Jodi or had said something. Not a word. The next thing I asked was, “has she said anything to you since it aired?” Our conversation took place on Wednesday or Thursday that week, so a few days had gone by. Not a word!
I then asked her if she had any clue what had happened. She said that when Jon picked up the kids that day, that they noticed the gum on Joel’s sock, and inspected all of the kids. There was only a speck of gum on Joel’s sock and Collin’s bear, just as was shown on TV. Kate called Jodi, and said no more gum, and I don’t think their conversation gave Jodi any indication as to what had happened after the kids left her house. About a week later, someone from the crew made a comment to Jodi about "the gum", but I can't elaborate on what else was said.
As I watched this episode, I knew that February and March were extremely busy for Jodi. They were filming the one on one days, and on several of the days, the older kids were out of school due to President’s Day, a snow day and spring break. She had 11 kids on those days. Then they filmed the hair plugs episode the end of March and Jodi had all of the kids for 3 FULL days. So knowing all of this, and then watching the episode that aired a few weeks later---I was disgusted with both Jon and Kate!
I told Jodi how sorry I was, and we discussed my observations of what aired. I think the editing does sometimes make Jodi appear to be passive or a little ditsy (at least what I've seen), but I think part of that is contrasting the two personalities for the show. Most people would look meek and mild if they were being compared to Kate. What bothered me more than the editing were the actual comments by Jon and Kate during the interview. They were giving the impression that Jodi lets the kids walk all over her, which I know is not true. Just because she can handle the kids without screaming and yelling, doesn't mean there are no rules and she lets the kids go wild. Jodi's kids are the most well behaved kids I've been around, and I've seen her discipline her children. She is not a doormat! She always treats her children with respect and they respect her.
She said that many were criticizing her because the editing and J&K's comments made her look like she was irresponsible. I couldn't believe this! I didn't know what she was talking about! Well, curiosity got the best of Jodi, and she went on the TWoP discussion board to see what was being said. That board was being heavily monitored by J&K, and every once in a while, Jodi would also do a little reading. She sent me the link, and that's when my eyes were opened. As I stated before, I had stopped watching the show, so other than what Jodi would tell me about her own experiences, I didn't really know what was going on in the episodes.
After I read some of the posts, I saw that although there were some critical comments about Jodi, the majority were criticizing J&K. That's where I heard the term "GumGate"--I actually laughed out loud! As I was reading, I kept wondering who these people were. I was confident that some of them had to know J&K personally, or at least have some sort of "inside" knowledge. I couldn't believe how they could possibly piece everything together, just by watching a 30 minute episode. How did they know so much? How could they see through the charade, and know what was really going on? It was all so fascinating! I posted on there a few times, but didn't say who I was. I was quickly banned because I forgot to put "IMO", and stated something as fact. I decided to just be a lurker and found the whole thing rather entertaining. IMO, it was a lot more entertaining than the show.
[7 of 13] Julie's Deleted Posts - Twisted-Part 3
[Note from iwhyawli: I'm not sure where "Twisted - Part 1" and "Twisted - Part 2" are ... perhaps still on her blog? ]
Twisted-Part 3
Jul 6, 2008
Another example is when Kate told Jodi she wasn't giving her the choice to be part of the show. Kate told her that it was to "save their relationship". Like Jodi should be thankful, maybe even grateful that Kate was actually doing her a favor. Does she really think Jodi is that gullible?!
Jodi had already had several conversations with different "people" involved with the show, all telling her the same story about Kate and her refusal to let Jodi get paid. Kevin already had two lengthy conversations with Kate about that very issue. Not once did their "relationship" come up. It was all about money and CONTROL!!
When Jodi was initially contacted about getting paid, the "person" said it was standard in the industry to give a contract to recurring people on reality shows. They said that she couldn't sign anything, so they were working on an "honorarium", but they had an "obstacle" to work around. Jodi and Kevin questioned them, and that's when they found out that Kate was the obstacle. They were told that when this person initially mentioned a contract for Jodi before the filming of season 2, Kate said, "If anyone else gets paid, we're done!" Jodi was asked not to tell Kate about the conversation because this person was "scared", and that she needed to be "patient". Kevin and Jodi didn't want to believe that Kate would do something like that, especially to them. They didn't feel comfortable going behind her back or taking the word of someone else without talking to their own FAMILY. They didn't want to be secretive or do anything that could potentially come between their "relationship" with J&K. They went against the advice and asked Kate, which I feel was the right thing for them to do. Kevin and Jodi have integrity and family means something to them.
So when Kevin went down and asked Kate what was going on, the first thing she did was yell into the other room, "Jon, If anyone else gets paid, we are done!" Then, she changed her tune and laughed at Kevin. She actually clapped her hands in his face for emphasis, as you've seen her do on TV... "You are nothing!" "Nobody cares about you!" "This is about us!" She later said that she was relaying what the "people" involved with the show told her. Although, she wasn't aware of the several other conversations that Jodi had with those "people" telling her the complete opposite. As soon as Kevin left (it was later found out), she was on the phone, putting a stop to any prospect of Jodi getting paid, and working out the hiring of a third party. I'm sure there was a lot of scrambling going on with the people from the show because they went against Kate and tried to work out something for Jodi.
A few days later, Jodi told Kate that she didn't care about the contract, and money had never been her motive. Kate twisted things around again. She said that she couldn't ALLOW Jodi to continue to be on the show because she wasn't going to get paid (because the network didn't care about her) and "Who would do that for free? Who would open their home, be filmed and not get paid?" Interesting, Kate--Jodi had been doing that for two years already, completely unaware that being paid was even an option.
At that point, Kate had already worked out the deal to "hire" the third party to take Jodi's place with child care. She allowed Jenny to sign a contract and be paid by the network, the very thing that she told Jodi the network wouldn't agree to. Her story just isn't adding up!!
Twisted-Part 3
Jul 6, 2008
Another example is when Kate told Jodi she wasn't giving her the choice to be part of the show. Kate told her that it was to "save their relationship". Like Jodi should be thankful, maybe even grateful that Kate was actually doing her a favor. Does she really think Jodi is that gullible?!
Jodi had already had several conversations with different "people" involved with the show, all telling her the same story about Kate and her refusal to let Jodi get paid. Kevin already had two lengthy conversations with Kate about that very issue. Not once did their "relationship" come up. It was all about money and CONTROL!!
When Jodi was initially contacted about getting paid, the "person" said it was standard in the industry to give a contract to recurring people on reality shows. They said that she couldn't sign anything, so they were working on an "honorarium", but they had an "obstacle" to work around. Jodi and Kevin questioned them, and that's when they found out that Kate was the obstacle. They were told that when this person initially mentioned a contract for Jodi before the filming of season 2, Kate said, "If anyone else gets paid, we're done!" Jodi was asked not to tell Kate about the conversation because this person was "scared", and that she needed to be "patient". Kevin and Jodi didn't want to believe that Kate would do something like that, especially to them. They didn't feel comfortable going behind her back or taking the word of someone else without talking to their own FAMILY. They didn't want to be secretive or do anything that could potentially come between their "relationship" with J&K. They went against the advice and asked Kate, which I feel was the right thing for them to do. Kevin and Jodi have integrity and family means something to them.
So when Kevin went down and asked Kate what was going on, the first thing she did was yell into the other room, "Jon, If anyone else gets paid, we are done!" Then, she changed her tune and laughed at Kevin. She actually clapped her hands in his face for emphasis, as you've seen her do on TV... "You are nothing!" "Nobody cares about you!" "This is about us!" She later said that she was relaying what the "people" involved with the show told her. Although, she wasn't aware of the several other conversations that Jodi had with those "people" telling her the complete opposite. As soon as Kevin left (it was later found out), she was on the phone, putting a stop to any prospect of Jodi getting paid, and working out the hiring of a third party. I'm sure there was a lot of scrambling going on with the people from the show because they went against Kate and tried to work out something for Jodi.
A few days later, Jodi told Kate that she didn't care about the contract, and money had never been her motive. Kate twisted things around again. She said that she couldn't ALLOW Jodi to continue to be on the show because she wasn't going to get paid (because the network didn't care about her) and "Who would do that for free? Who would open their home, be filmed and not get paid?" Interesting, Kate--Jodi had been doing that for two years already, completely unaware that being paid was even an option.
At that point, Kate had already worked out the deal to "hire" the third party to take Jodi's place with child care. She allowed Jenny to sign a contract and be paid by the network, the very thing that she told Jodi the network wouldn't agree to. Her story just isn't adding up!!
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